Online Consultation

This document highlights the work and effort done to date to produce a plan for the future development of Barton Village.

Every resident is invited to participate via the questionnaire, as you scroll through the document questions will pop up which require a Yes or NO answer, these questions  enables a percentage of opinion to be gathered at no cost, any additional comments, ideas or input, you have may be added to the form at the end of the document.

Please tell your friends and neighbours about this survey, every entry helps to give a better understanding


‘Our vision is for Barton to be a safe and welcoming community that retains its identity as a village and is inclusive for all. We will achieve this by welcoming limited sustainable development that meets the needs identified by our residents, for quality and diverse affordable homes.’


Our Objectives are to work with our partners to help improve the quality of life for our residents by;

  • Maintaining a friendly environment embodying the character of the village.
  • Creating a development plan which is sympathetic to the character of the village including appropriate infrastructure provision, respecting the needs and wishes of all residents.
  • Enhancement of transport links with safe traffic management and connectivity though the village, including a series of Public Rights of Way (PROWs) routes for walking and cycling.
  • The promotion of Health and Wellbeing within the village by encouraging greater health care provision and outdoor exercise, including sports facilities and activities for all ages.
  • The creation of a Barton information hub, allowing residents the visibility to easily access information. Where to go for help and an awareness of what is available
  • Enhancing our valued community assets, such as the Village Hall, Places of Worship, King George V playing fields along with other open green spaces.
  • Promotion of open green spaces and ecology within the village by encouraging and preserving a rich and diverse variety of wildlife, trees and flowers.
  • Support & promotion of local businesses and community groups to achieve their full potential.

How to use this document

This first discussion draft of the neighbourhood plan is intended to be used as a basis for the development of the first draft neighbourhood plan proper.

The document will:

      • Help frame debate at future steering group meetings.
      • Help identify areas for future work.
      • Provide a structure within which to drop key information and evidence e.g. from the questionnaire; and
      • Help to test different policy options for tackling issues

At various points in the document you will find areas highlighted as discussion points – these could be areas for further consideration; areas for discussion; areas where evidence is needed; or areas where key choices will have to be made.



            • Vision                                                                                                        
            • Objectives                                                                                                
            • How to use this document                                                          



            1. Why is the Barton Neighbourhood Plan Important 
            2. The Neighbourhood Plan Process 
            3. Community Consultation
            4. Key Issues for the NDP 
            5. Vision and Objectives 
            6. Barton Suggested policies 


Figure 1 –                   Neighbourhood Plan Area                                             
Figure 2 -                    Neighbourhood Plan Area (Wyre Borough Council)                   
Figure 3 –                   The Neighbourhood Plan Preparation Process                            
Figure 4 –                   Neighbourhood Plan planning policy constraints             
Figure 5 –                   Green Infrastructure                                                                       
Figure 6 –                   Green Space Justification table                                                     
Figure 7 –                   Local Green Spaces   North                                                        
Figure 8 –                   Local Green Spaces South                                                               
Figure 9 -                    Highways Options                                                                            
Figure 10                    Emerald Necklace                                                                        
Figure 11                    Area of Separation                                                                    
  1. Introduction

1.1       Welcome to the first draft of the Barton Neighbourhood Development Plan. This issues draft has been prepared by a group of local volunteers and parish councillors and is being published to engage all those who live, work and carry out business in the area on the parish’s future development.


1.2       Barton Parish Council (lead parish) along with Myerscough and Bilsborrow Parish Council (which falls within the Borough of Wyre) submitted a Neighbourhood Area application to Preston City Council and Wyre Borough Council on 30 March 2017, to be designated a neighbourhood planning body for the whole parish. The application comprised a submission statement, a map identifying the proposed Neighbourhood Area, the Barton Parish Council and Myerscough and Bilsborrow Parish Council Steering Group Terms of Reference (including a map identifying the area within each parish), and the respective Parish Council agreements.


1.3       The NPA was designated on 8th September 2017.   This designation has allowed the local community to come together, through the preparation of this neighbourhood development plan, to set out how the future development of the area should be shaped up to 2030. The neighbourhood plan will cover the area of the parish of Barton and part Wyre (Figure 2).

Barton Map

figure 1 - Barton Neighbourhood Plan (PSMA 000932737) Formal designation boundary

figure 2 -The Neighbourhood Plan area showing the part of Myerscough & Bilsborrow Parish Council which falls within Wyre Borough Council



  1. Why is the Barton Neighbourhood Development Plan important?

2.1       The Barton Neighbourhood Development Plan (NDP for short) is a new type of development plan. Introduced by the Localism Act in 2011, NDPs give local communities, through their parish councils, the right to prepare a plan for their neighbourhood.

2.2       The significance of this is that when the NDP is finally “made” it will become part of the development plan for the area. This means planning applications in the parish, unless there are other material considerations, will normally be determined in accordance with the NDP.

  1. The Neighbourhood Plan Process

3.1       The Barton NDP must be prepared following a procedure set down by government. We have now published the draft issues document for informal consultation for 4 weeks before we embark on the first formal consultation in late Spring 2020.

3.2       Figure 3 - The Neighbourhood Plan Preparation Process



3.3       The neighbourhood plan preparation process includes a number of stages during which we must ensure we consult all those who live, work and carry out business in the area. At the moment we are consulting, informally, on our first draft of the NDP, but the plan must also undergo two formal six week periods of consultation. We expect these to take place in late Spring 2020 Regulation 14 and Regulation  16 Autumn 2020.

3.4       After these consultations the plan will be sent for examination by an independent expert.  This examiner will be jointly appointed by the Parish Council and Preston City Council.

3.5       At the examination the examiner will assess whether the plan meets the basic conditions of the Localism Act.  This is something al neighbourhood plans must comply with if they are to be formally made part of the development plan.  The basic conditions are:

  • Is the NDP in line with national planning policy and guidance?
    Is the NDP in general conformity with the strategic planning policies for the area?
  • Is the plan compatible with European Union obligations?

3.6       If the examiner decides the answer to these questions is “yes” the Barton NDP will be subject to a local referendum. The referendum will give all eligible voters on the electoral register in the parish the opportunity to vote and decide if the Barton NDP should in future be used to help determine planning applications. The final decision, therefore, rests with the people of Barton and will be a straightforward majority of those voting in the referendum.

  1. Community Consultation

4.1       This issues and options document has been prepared following consultation with local people in August 2018. The consultation so far is detailed below:

4.2       In August 2018 a scoping questionnaire document was sent out to residents and workers in the Parish to gather views and options from local people.  Responses needed to be received back by 30th September 2018. An excellent response rate was achieved, with 241 completed questionnaires submitted by people who resided or worked in the village.

4.3       In terms of the comments received, when asked to identify Barton’s assets as a village, the open nature of the village, availability of greenspace and access to the countryside were all highlighted.  In addition, the feeling of Barton as a friendly and safe environment was raised by many of the respondents.

4.4       In terms of areas of concern, over 80% of respondents thought the volume of traffic in Barton was a particular issue and two thirds were concerned about the speed of traffic.  Two thirds of respondents agreed or strongly agreed that speeding traffic was unacceptable on the A6, Station Lane and Jepps Lane.  In addition, three quarters of respondents also identified the lack of a convenience store as one of the village’s weaknesses.

4.5       In relation to new residential development in the village, there was a very strong feeling that there is not a need/ requirement for new homes in Barton, with 85% of respondents disagreeing or strongly disagreeing that new homes are necessary.  However, the survey highlighted that if the case were to be made for more   development, affordable homes with a local connection, retirement units or extra care housing and bungalows to buy were the least likely to be opposed.  In addition, one or two dwellings schemes that fill gaps between existing houses in built up areas were seen as the most acceptable form of development with agreement from almost three-quarters of respondents agreeing or strongly agreeing that this was the most appropriate.  When assessing the location of potential new development, around 75% of respondents felt that previously developed land was the most acceptable location for development; however 20% disagreed or strongly disagreed.

4.6       The vast majority of respondents agreed that new houses should have sufficient off-street parking and also that there should be defined pavements on both sides of the road.  The provision of good pedestrian access to local facilities was also highlighted. When the question of design was raised, most respondents agreed that any new homes should incorporate recognised ecological features such as swift bricks.

Consultation has taken place by the steering committee, see under 'Documents' from the menu of this website, and has been advertised via Facebook.

Facebook page extract



  1. Key issues for Barton Neighbourhood Development Plan


5.2       Several key issues came out of the survey report. These issues have been identified during the initial steering group meetings.

5.3       Key Issues Identified by the Steering Group


Environmental Protection & conservation of green spaces within the wider Barton area.

  • Better access to green space
  • Enhanced utility services (flood management & drainage – top water/foul)


  • A comprehensive traffic management strategy (traffic calming measures/cycle paths/ safe crossings)
  • Enhanced community facilities (Sports/Leisure/Medical/Retail)
  • Enhanced public transport infrastructure
  • Fibre optic broadband

Development & Planning

  • Conservation of the current housing stock character within Barton village
  • Visual impact & design
  • Sustainable development (high % of self-build options on allocated land)
  • Affordable homes for local residents
  • Provision for sheltered accommodation
  • Heritage and Conservation


  • Better opportunities for local businesses to grow and develop

5.4       Key Issues Arising from National and Strategic Planning Policy

5.5       As well as the community consultations the NDP must be prepared with appropriate regard to national planning policy and to be in general conformity with strategic planning policy for the area.

5.6       National Planning Policy is contained in one document, the National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF).  The government have also published web-based guidance alongside this in the National Planning Practice Guide (NPPG).  The NDP has been prepared to take full account of both these documents.

5.7       Taking account of the NPPF means the neighbourhood plan must “plan positively to promote local development” and must “support the strategic development needs” set out in strategic planning policy which is the adopted Preston City Council Local Plan.  It sets out the strategic planning policies the Council will use to help guide development to the most sustainable places over the 15-year period between 2012 and 2026.

5.8       Local Plan review

5.9       The 2018 Central Lancashire Local Development Scheme sets out the timetable for the preparation and eventual adoption of a joint Local Plan.  The Central Lancashire Authorities of Preston City, South Ribble and Chorley are currently undertaking a review of the development plan(s) for the area and are working towards the preparation of a Joint Local Plan for Central Lancashire. The aim is for a single planning document to be provides which will contain the Council’s Vision and Objectives.   The Plan will contain strategic and local Development Management policies as well as site allocations for future development across all three authorities.

5.10     Once adopted the Local Plan will replace the current Central Lancashire Core Strategy, which was adopted in 2012), as well as the Local Plans/Site Allocations and Development Management Policies of the 3 Central Lancashire Authorities, which were all adopted 2015.

5.11     Central Lancashire Local Plan Consultations

Central Lancashire have been consulting to find the best areas to allocate specific types of development until 2036. Further details and the latest timetable can be found at

5.12        South Ribble Planning Appeal - review of housing land supply 2019

5.13     In December 2019 the Planning Inspectorate issued its decision in relation to an outline planning application for a housing development within the administrative area of South Ribble (Appeal Ref: APP/F2360/W/19/3234070).The Inspector dismissed the appeal, and, in doing so undertook a comprehensive analysis of the housing land supply position in South Ribble, which applies equally to Preston.

5.14     The Inspector’s conclusions on housing land supply in the decision are clear. Having regard to paragraphs 33, 73 (and footnote 37) and 212-213 of the Framework, as well as paragraph 062 (Reference ID: 61-062-20190315) of  Planning Practice Guidance, the housing requirement contained within Policy 4 is out of date on several counts, as follows;

(i) The policy is over five years old.
(ii) The 2017 Memorandum of Understanding (and the Strategic Housing Market Assessment leading up to it) did not properly constitute a review of  Policy 4.
(iii) The significant change resulting from the introduction of the standard  method in the 2018 Framework.

5.15     In order to adhere to the above principles which underpin the Inspector’s decision, the relevant housing requirement for the Council is now the minimum annual local housing need figure calculated by using the standard methodology set out in Planning Practice Guidance. At April 2019, this figure is  241 dwellings per annum.

5.16     Against this minimum requirement, the Council can currently demonstrate a five-year supply of deliverable housing land when account is taken of completions and planning permission granted up to 1 April 2019. In view of this, the development plan policies which are most important for determining the application are not considered to be out-of-date and can therefore be afforded full weight. For decision taking this means (in accordance with paragraph 11c) of the Framework) approving development proposals that accord with an up- to-date development plan without delay.

5.17     Applications which were considered in Barton:

  • Cardwell Farm , Garstang Road - 151 homes Wainhomes
  • Land North of Jepps Lane - 125 homes Story Homes


  1. Vision and Objectives

6.1       Our Vision Statement for Barton is that:

"Our vision is for Barton to be a safe and welcoming community that retains its identity as a village and is inclusive for all. We will do this by welcoming limited sustainable development that meets the needs identified by our residents, for quality and diverse affordable homes."

6.2       In order for us to address and to address the key issues identified in chapter 5 of this plan we have set the following key objectives for the Barton NDP.


Objective 1 - Environmental

            • Protection and conservation of green spaces within the wider Barton area
            • Better access to green space
            • Enhanced utility services (flood management and drainage- top water/foul)


Objective 2 - Infrastructure

            • Highway improvements
            • A comprehensive traffic management strategy (traffic calming measures/ cycle paths/ safe crossings/ ‘hot-spots’)
            • Enhanced community facilities (Sports/Leisure/medical/retail)
            • Enhanced public transport infrastructure
            • Ensure that residents and businesses benefit from necessary infrastructure to access the latest technologies

Objective 3 - Development and Planning

            • Developing homes which are in context with the existing housing stock
            • Visual impact & design
            • Sustainable development (high percentage of self-build options on allocated land)
            • Affordable homes for local residents
            • Provision for sheltered accommodation

Objective 4 - Commercial

            • Better opportunities for local businesses to grow and develop


  1. Barton NDP Policies

7.1       This section of the Barton NDP contains the draft planning policies we think should be used to manage, guide and promote future development in the parish up to 2030. 

7.2       Each set of policies has been set out under the key objective that it will be used to help attain.  Each policy is also followed by a ‘Background/ Justification’ that sets out, briefly what the policy is considered to be necessary and how the policy will be used.  Planning jargon can be difficult to understand, and a glossary is included at Appendix 1 [to be inserted later)

7.3       The policies are set out as follows:

BNP 01  Green Infrastructure

BNP 02  Local Green Spaces

BNP 03  Traffic and Transport

BNP 04  Increasing Connectivity

BNP 05  Surface Water Flooding

BNP 06  New Housing Flooding

BNP 07  Areas of Separation

BNP 08  Supporting Businesses

7.4   Green Spaces, leisure and sport


The network of paths, fields, watercourses and water features, woodland, grassland and other green infrastructure features within the parish should be maintained and enhanced for their recreational and ecological value. [Note: Does this adequately describe the parishes green infrastructure and its functions?]

Development proposals should seek to maintain this green infrastructure network and, where possible, should enhance the green infrastructure network by creating new connections and links in the network; restoring existing green infrastructure; or by introducing features that enhance the existing green infrastructure network.

 Development that would disrupt or sever this network will not be permitted unless suitable compensatory provision can be provided to establish a new network connection within the immediate vicinity of the site.

7.5   Green infrastructure is the network of paths, fields, watercourses, other water features, woodland, grassland and other similar features within the parish. This network is important for leisure, recreation, tourism and ecological reasons. For Barton this is important in allowing people to use the existing network without having to walk alongside the A6.

7.6    NPPF paragraph 174 states:
“To protect and enhance biodiversity and geodiversity, plans should:

a)Identify, map and safeguard components of local wildlife-rich habitats and wider ecological networks, including the hierarchy of international, national and locally designated sites of importance for biodiversity; wildlife corridors and stepping stones that connect them; and areas identified by national and local partnerships for habitat management, enhancement, restoration or creation; and

  1. b)  promote the conservation, restoration and enhancement of priority habitats, ecological networks and the protection and recovery of priority species; and identify and pursue opportunities for securing measurable net gains for biodiversity.”


The following open spaces shown on maps  6 and 7 below will be protected as local green spaces.

 Recreation Ground - to rear of Village hall

  1. St. Lawrences School Field, Jepps Avenue.
  2. Forest Grove and Jepps Avenue green space and wildlife corridor.
  3. St. Lawrence’s Church Cemetery and regimental graves
  4. St. Marys and St. Andrews school playing field, Station Lane
  5. St. Marys Church and Cemetery, Station Lane
  6. King George Playing Field, Station Lane

figure 5 Green Infrastructure

Name of site & Ref Distance from local community (size in ha) Demonstrably special to a local community? Local in Character and not an extensive tract of land?
1. Village Hall, Bowling Green, Tennis Club and Football pitch In village Existing village infrastructure, Local bowling clubs and tennis clubs exist and use these facilities, a local football team are looking to sign a lease to allow the football facilities to be improved. Bowling club and tennis club already exists, football pitch exists but is under-utilised, a local team is looking to sign a lease to allow the facilities to be developed
2.  St. Lawrences School Field, Jepps Avenue In Village Preservation of existing school playing field Not extensive, a contained piece of open space enjoyed by children at school
3.Forest Grove and Jepps Avenue green space and wildlife corridor In village This space combines the local green spaces in recent developments and links them with a wildlife corridor includes the new play area on Forest Grove. This space already exists as green space in recent housing developments, this nomination links the existing spaces with a narrow wildlife corridor.
4. St. Lawrence’s Church Cemetery and regimental graves In village Existing village green space and infrastructure at threat from adjacent developments to the Boars Head public house and car park. Contained piece of land which adds to the character and historic past of Barton
5. St. Marys and St. Andrews school playing field, Station Lane In village playing Not extensive, a contained piece of open space enjoyed by children at school
6. St. Marys Church and Cemetery, Station Lane In village Preservation of land surrounding St. Mary’s church and cemetery Contained piece of land
7. King George Playing Field, Station Lane In village Existing playground and sports facilities requiring preservation. Playground and sports facilities already exist although the sports pitch would benefit from some improvement.


figure 7 - Local Green Spaces North


figure 8 - Local Green Space South


7.9   Travel, Connectivity and Infrastructure


New development proposals should include measures that reduce the traffic impact on existing and future residents and other land uses. Proposals will be assessed in terms of the following:

  1. Measures that seek to reduce the need to
  2. Measures that maximise and enhance the use of non-car and public transport
  3. Suitable inclusion of off-street car and other vehicle parking;
  4. Access and street design that prioritises safety for all, but, in particular pedestrians and seeks to provide shared surfaces for vehicles and pedestrians that will help to reduce speeds.
  5. Actively engage with LCC on a highway’s strategy

7.10 Lancashire County Council have been developing a series of options for traffic calming measures through the village. Larger copies of the options can be made available. Through the Neighbourhood Plan, the Parish Council will work with LCC in the options.

figure 9 Highways Options


7.11 Increasing Cycle and Pedestrian Connectivity


Through discussions with the Neighbourhood Plan steering group, it was considered a good opportunity to expand upon existing and the creation of new pathways and cycle ways for people to enjoy.

The NDP will promote and secure funding through working with other agencies  where possible for the routes as shown Figure 10.


figure 10 - Increasing Connectivity ‘Emerald Necklace’

Emerald Necklace

7.12 Surface Water Flooding

POLICY BNP 05– Surface Water Flooding


 In areas where surface water flood risk is a known issue, development proposals will be resisted unless suitable mitigation can be provided which does not exacerbate surface water flooding beyond the site and wherever possible seeks to provide a betterment.   In assessing proposals, the following should be considered:

a)     Development proposals will be required to provide effective surface water drainage measures to protect existing and future residential areas from flooding. New development should be designed to maximise the retention of surface water on the development site and to minimise runoff. Sustainable drainage systems (SuDS) should be implemented in accordance with the SuDS hierarchy unless deemed inappropriate.

b)     New developments should ensure that existing features of value in relation to drainage such hedgerows, trees and verges are retained where possible and the use of appropriate species for planting to minimise future flood risk is adequately explored.

c)      Sections of the public rights of way (the use of which is deterred by poor drainage) should be identified within development proposals and work should be undertaken with landowners to agree and implement solutions to overcome these barriers to their full use and enjoyment by the local community

d)     Flood risk should be managed during construction, and drainage should be installed at the earliest possible opportunity. Construction can expose loose materials and drainage networks downstream can be vulnerable to pollution and blockage from such materials.

In addition to development proposals, Barton Parish Council will:

e)     Work proactively with Lancashire County Council and statutory undertakers to achieve action where drainage problems are the consequence of damage to public drainage infrastructure

f)       Actively engage with Preston City Council consulting on planning applications to ensure the local impacts of surface water flooding are given significant weight in decision making.

Surface water flooding is influenced by features in the landscape, particularly buildings and roads and occurs when intense rainfall overwhelms the drainage systems and there is emerging evidence that the frequency and extent of surface water flooding has increased in recent years.  Whilst the majority of the Barton NP area appears to cope with normal levels of rainfall, there are times during extended periods of heavy rain when large areas of standing water appear and can be problematic.  There are numerous locations along the roads of Barton that are affected by flooding when surface water flows from the surrounding areas.

7.13 Development and Planning


Within Barton new housing development will be supported when it is within the defined development boundary (see Appendix 1). All new housing development proposals will be assessed against the following they:

  1. are of good quality design;
  2. do not have an adverse impact on the parish’s rural landscape;
  3. do not have an adverse impact on designated and non-designated heritage assets;
  4. do not have an adverse impact on existing and future residential amenity;
  5. do not lead to the inappropriate development of residential gardens that would cause harm to the village by reason of over-development, significant loss of useable garden spaces for both existing and proposed new properties, and loss of off-street car parking;
  6. are appropriately located for the users and residents of the proposed use to access local facilities and services; and
  7. all development must be appropriate in terms of size, scale, design and character to the surrounding area
  8. Should be a mixture of type and tenure
  9. Preference for 1 and 2 bedroom properties for the elderly to be able to downsize whilst staying within the village

Outside of the development boundary new housing development will only be permitted for small scale affordable rural exception housing. 

7.13 Area of Separation


Development will not be permitted within the Areas of Separation as defined on Figure 11, if individually or cumulatively it would result in increasing the coalescence between Barton and Bilsborrow to the north and Barton and Broughton to the south of the NDP area.

All forms of development outside the main settlement boundary will need to meet police EN1 of the Preston Local Plan or whatever policy supersedes it together with the NPPF policy on development within the Open Countryside.

The village is very linear in its character following the A6 with development concentrating more to the east of the village, being constrained to the west by the West Coast main railway line.  To the north of the village is Bilsborrow, a separate village which falls under the Wire Council. To the south is the village of Broughton which shares a closer relationship with the edge of the main built up area of Preston.

The steering group want to consider the creation of an Area of Separation to the north with Bilsborrow and to the south with Broughton. It is considered that further development beyond the central area of the village would have the effect of reducing the separate identity of the village and allowing coalescence would be inappropriate.

figure 11 Area of Separation

7.14 Heritage and Conservation

The statutory listings are:

  • Church of Saint Lawrence grade II
  • Milestone stone on west side of road app No. 650 grade II
  • Barton Cross Grade II

The following sites are identified on Preston City Council’s local heritage list.  A local heritage asset is a building, structure or man-made landscape of local historic or architectural importance. Their local interest could be related to the social and economic history of the area, individuals of local importance, settlement patterns or the age, design and style of buildings.

Asset Number Brief Description Address
LLA 35 The Boars Head Public House 724 Garstang Road, PR3 5DR, south of Bridge House Farm & Preston Grindings
LLA 36 The Old School House Garstang Road, PR3 5AS
LLA 37 Blacow House Farm, including barn and ancillary buildings to west Jepps Lane, PR3 5AQ


Other possible inclusions to a local list would be: The White Horse Pub (now called Barton Bangla),  Terrraces on White Horse Lane and Mill Shaft which sits in the Village Hall Car Park.

7.15 Supporting Business

Barton is well known for being home to a number of small, medium and large successful businesses, many of which are family owned and run. Some of the existing businesses include;

Barton Grange Landscapes

Barton Grange Hotel

JJ Sandhams Cheese

The Kopper Kettle

Tangled Hair Room

Simply Puds

The Pickled Goose

The Jaguar Garage

Barton Bangla

Barton Chinese

Barton Car Sales

Brooks Gelato

Bentham Developments Ltd

Garden Centre Plants

Supporting the future of these businesses is important for the sustainability of the neighbourhood plan area as well as attracting new businesses.



The objective policy is to provide guidance and support to allow business within the village to grow in a structured manner which reflects the needs of both business and residents.

This will include:

  • A register of businesses within a Barton Community Hub to allow greater visibility and networking potential in the village.
  • Allocation of small sites to accommodate the identified need.
  • Support links with local and national government bodies to unlock potential advice and funding options.

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Thank you for taking the time to complete the survey. The survey will stay online from 20th April 2020 for a period of four weeks, the results will be published on the website shortly after.